Friday, November 21, 2008 | 11:43 p.m.

Democrats Should Be More Democratic

by Froma Harrop

There was unfortunate symbolism in Barack Obama's choice of Des Moines as the place to celebrate his delegate milestone on the day of the Kentucky and Oregon primaries. The Iowa caucuses were the first contest of the nominating process, and Obama's success in them launched his campaign into the big time. But they were also the start of a deeply undemocratic process.

The caucuses produced no vote count. There were no secret ballots — but instead a public two-hour tussle that disen ...

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Posted by: E Hungerford
Comment: #1
Sat May 24, 2008 11:40 AM

I agree with the p-v- in your column, and it goes along with what I found out about primaries (esp. the Decmocratic ones) in this current election campaign. Thered was no rhyme or reason in the way the Democratic Natiional Committee made up its method of choosing delegates. What the DNC did use not only makes no sense, but was grossly un fair to all voters who voted in anything, primaries or caucuses or whatever. I was not watching closely during the earlier primaries, and of course (as the column points out) resented the way Iowa seemed to matter so much, with such a narrow way of choosing delegates--by caucus, which was very undemocratic. Wha reallyh gotd me maad was to see the result of the voting in prdimardies for New York and Califordnia. Here are two okf tdhe top four or five statges in population, and when delegates were selected--Hillary won both states---tdhe result was as if n o advantage had resulted from these gtremen dous victories for Hillary. She even lost all of the advantage California might have given, by some arcane, mysterious manner of "apportioinment" of delegates--so th at people in Calif. might as wsell not have voted. The DNC should really quickly get rid of the present system, primary delegates, caucuses, and all, and start over with a more truly democratic process. It should move toward four or five regional primaries for all delegates.

Posted by: Mary
Comment: #2
Sun May 25, 2008 11:55 AM

Could NOT disagree more with your 'opinion'. The RULES were well known (Ickes, with the Clinton campaign, even help write the darn things for the DNC) Seems Edwards, Dodd, Biden's campaign, and others understood how a caucus worked - why couldn't Hillary? Is it time for a female in our White House? YES! I have supported Obama from day one and as an Independent was ready to vote for ANY Democrat that got the party nomination....WAS is the key word. Two months ago Clinton lost my support and has dug her hole wider and wider with each day of her campaign follies. She has, in my opinion, put a huge black mark on the woman's movement in this country and in the process has left this as her legacy to my granddaughters and all young girls in this country: 1. Changing the RULES of the game after it started is OK. 2. It's OK to whine or shed a tear to get your way. 3. Scratch, spit, stick your tongue out, and lead with your fists swinging when you feel threatened. You are a female and the male 'bullies' can't hit you back. 4. Writing bad checks is OK. It's even OK if you charge, charge, and charge some more - you can always find a 'sugar daddy' that will pay off your debt. 5. Dreaming up story lines that you have experienced danger(s) and telling them like they are true is what will make people believe you are strong. 6. When confronted on a negative issue that may be damning - it's best to say, "I don't recall". Always turn the negative issue to someone else - anyone else! 7. Stay in a game until the end even when you have lost and there's no feasible way to win. (you never know, the other team's star player may get hurt and not be able to play in the Final Four game!) 8. When it get tough cry "foul" on the boys in the game! Let the girls that are watching in the stands think that the reason you aren't winning is because the darn boys 'aren't playing by YOUR rules!"

Posted by: Graham
Comment: #3
Thu May 22, 2008 9:19 PM

You, as always, are predictable in your discussion of issues (pro-Hillary and anti-Obama). It is a weak intellect who cannot see many different sides. It seems more like propoganda and agenda over and over. Sorry, I am not trying to instigate anything - merely pointing out the obvious -- you are a surrogate not an expert or analyst.

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